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It's not just enough to say you are against rape, or against patriarchy, when you are a guy and not be willing to be called on the stuff that you do or take advantage because of your status of privilege in society.

And yes I'm talking about Penny Arcade and PaxEAST.

Its easy to be a guy and think that your going to a convention has nothing to do with supporting rape culture. Because frankly we can be pretty secure in the privilege being a guy gives us.

Now I'm not going to say I'm innocent of doing this. Goodness knows [livejournal.com profile] peaseblossom puts up with a lot of shit from me. But part of wanting to be an ally is knowing that questioning your own assumptions is the first order of business.

I has the greatest respect and admiration for women like my wife or Courtney Stanton for the crap they put up with. But they shouldn't have to, and they certainly shouldn't be doing it alone.

Guys, and I'm particularly speaking to gamer guys because you’re my subculture and no matter how stupid you are I still identify with you, it is time to realize that we're mired in this patriarchal crap and it makes a difference and we have to own our own stupidity and point out the stupidity of others. And than work to change it.

If you support the guys at Penny Arcade, and that includes supporting PaxEast, than you are part of the problem. You are looking the other way at rape culture. And looking the other way is basically agreeing.

And unfortunately I count myself as part of the problem because I don't post enough about this sort of stuff in a coherent or consistent fashion. And I'm not proud of that.

So folks, look around and think is this really what we want to be? Is this the ebst we can be? And hopefully like me you'll agree its not. And maybe a part of that is walking away from Penny Arcade and PAX.

Date: 2011-02-03 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telepresence.livejournal.com
Hrm. If you just watched season 1, I think you kind of miss the best of Sol Starr, Charlie Utter, and Calamity Jane, but oh well.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drunkencarp.livejournal.com
I get that you're making a reference to Deadwood, but I don't understand what you're saying.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telepresence.livejournal.com
I completely replied in the wrong post. :(

Date: 2011-02-03 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruceb.livejournal.com
Very vigorous agreement.

Date: 2011-02-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cappadocius.livejournal.com
I prefer to take my stands on IMPORTANT anti-rape issues, not dickwolves.

Date: 2011-02-04 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeregenest.livejournal.com
This is an issue because of a toxic, destructive atmosphere with, at best, no comment from Penny Arcade and, at worst, goading from Gabe. Me, I'd rather be only grumpy about HR3 (okay not that either), but instead this shit has to happen. And for that, yeah its worth focusing on because these two guys and their "fans" have shown just how toxic this community is.

Date: 2011-02-04 12:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
It's worth focusing on.

Geek culture is still patriarchal culture. It's still rape culture. It kept me from going to cons for years, and still keeps me from participating in spaces where I feel it likely that some neckbeard is going to consider my tits "open source." When you have choads reacting defensively to actual victims raising actual concerns, you reinforce the idea that acting choadish is a right and teh wimminz are just too sensitive to play in our sandbox.

Most of my boys, and a lot of the girls are gamers, which means that they're participating in a culture that thinks rape and homophobia are hilarious. There's not some kind of gamer or geek culture that exists in a vacuum—I have nothing to do with gaming, and this shit still spills into my classroom all the time. I can do my bit to counter it in my classroom, but where are the grown-ups in fandom countering it there?

(Oh yeah, they're there, regularly being told that their concerns are trivial and they should get a real cause.)

Date: 2011-02-04 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruceb.livejournal.com
The mental, social, and spiritual well-being of women and men - including not having rape be cheap joke fodder or fodder for extended browbeating about their PC hypersensitivity - is important. This is the issue. This is one instance of it, but then every individual human being is an instance of humanity, and every second is an instance of time. That's how these things work.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drunkencarp.livejournal.com
I feel that Gabe and Tycho are people that I know, as I've been following their work since 1998, read their books, listened to their podcasts, etc. So I respond emotionally as if someone who's been my friend for twelve years went on an anti-rape-survivor binge.

Date: 2011-02-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peaseblossom.livejournal.com
It must be nice for you that you get to decide what's IMPORTANT for everyone.

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